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Audiovisual Cultures episode 108 – 2021 End of Year Guest Showcase

This special episode presents a great big round-up of all our fabulous guests from 2021. It’s been a fantastic year and we’ve got great things on the way in 2022. For now, join me in enjoying hearing from our 2021 guests again who are:
02:44 Justin McAleece
03:45 Mustafa Sherif
06:24 Shea Donovan
07:39 Clinton Kirkpatrick
09:03 Todd Zimmermann, Katrina Michaels and Debra Beardsley
14:14 Nisan Arikan and Lars Henriks
18:29 Derrik Jordan
19:53 Dan Hughes
22:01 Dr Gary D. Rhodes
28:55 Nathan Ragland
31:22 Chloe Gibson
33:44 Dr Rabya Mughal
38:04 Dr Troy Hall
40:16 Pam Munter
42:28 Dominic Sim
44:25 Daniel Hess
47:50 Beau L’Amour
50:16 Dr Fiona Noble
53:39 Mariae Smiarowska
55:34 Tom Jennings
56:09 Mackenzie Finklea
57:42 Brendon Connelly
58:33 Dave Lewis
01:00:01 Katie Chonacas
Edited by Paula Blair with Audacity.
Music: commonGround by airtone (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/airtone/58703
hello and welcome to see this twenty eight twenty one and if you're gassed showcase we made it very another year we had some really fantastic guests here on audio visual cultures through quite the past year whether you've recently joined us or you're just here for the good parts this recap of highlights is free a I'm Paula Blair and in making audio visual cultures I investigate a wide range of areas and audio visual media and the creative industries these include cinema television streaming live performance music audio production and the visual arts and much more anything you can think of that might be considered audio and or visual culture that's what we're in today so the issue has been going since March twenty eighteen and we've covered a lot of topics since then in the past year I've re branded the podcast opened its own dedicated YouTube channel and have been learning more and more ways of making improvements and sign quality editing my performances and interfere and communicator on how to get the show right there and better ways are incredible patrons at Petri on dot com forward slash AP cultures have been instrumental and supporting all that work and I can keep going but cite them and there are loads of exclusive extras and early releases on pitching on so please stay find a satire and consider giving regular support to sustain and improve this show fires are our hosts a cast have also been tremendous and offering training and tools to facilitate marketing in rage so banks thanks to them as well if you follow AV cultures part on the socials you may have seen this year Spotify rocked three which we learned we've been dying noted in twenty two two countries in the past year which I'm really bowled over by I am I'm just so grateful anyone's listening a toll but the idea that strangers and countries I've never been to your last thing not so exciting and I'm really grateful massive thanks to everyone where ever and higher for your last name we've got more great things coming your way and twenty twenty two so I really hope you stick with us for the rest of this episode we're going to go through some highlights of twenty twenty one we hit the ground running and January with two fascinating discussions with filmmaker Justin McAleese and urban planner missed office Shareef was both in different ways talking about storytelling hopefully when you get on sat a lot of your decisions are already made because you've made them with the producer the director or the writer whoever happens to be in your you know what you're trying to accomplish and I mean really that's what it comes down to it's not like oh what do I want to do in this situation that's like very forced tear sort of concept you want to be like what serves the story what will help the director accomplished the most amount of information in the least amount of time it really that's what you're trying to do David Fincher American director has a quote you know like basically my job as directors deciding what information to give out when and that's really what directing is about and and by proxy that's what cinematography is about is putting people with a sense of what the context is what the vital information about a frame is in where to leave their eyes and how to feel about it so consciously without even attempting to tell them why do you feel about a certain way with the actors of the dialogue or the action or any of that stuff just like you know one second and you're like oh I get what this is when when I was young and now may bind to hold but anyway so I I'm listening to Ted talk on YouTube I was very inspired by that and it what makes it Ted talks special is the way they tell the story it's not like a lecturing university or a TV program that's why it's so special and I was like okay but how about mixing this kind of story is and then the plot casting and urban planning and also L. like after work are you doing I am part of statics Stockholm team and what we do is like I do content researching medical select co coaching people how they talk and giving feedback about their speech I was trying to combine that not makes a boring lecture and not to like sort of stand up comedy or something you know I want something like as a how white would love to listen to we all know that's it why we like TV shows and seriousness as a storytelling like it's art and culture is about storytelling so I wanted to do with the podcast says something like this like this format is not going to be like a feeling that you're in the police station like a question and answer you know like okay what's your name what do you do what's your project because there are many puts us like this and when you hear when you listen to them you you feel sometimes bad for the kids to be back home but give him some time to briefing notes express himself or something like this so I decided and I tried my best to that leave the platform open to the guest because it's not like Mustafa sherry fair podcast it's urbanistic out and ideal for many suggest that people are the storytellers because I'm listening to them and learning I can start my own show and talk but today most urbanised case listening and learning because this is the goal every guest is the storyteller I just leave them to talk just like how you doing now like you just you know leave the flow and that's always a good flow when you give people the the freedom to express themselves and always I don like control so much for the questions just like a main questions and then see what happened because in the end what comes from heart ghost others people's hearts so it says that there is like it and aim why I say the guess is a storyteller because the format of the ports gas is a kind of story to inspire us because the aim in the end it's about us getting inspired by people and hopefully we transform this inspiration to actual action in our offices when we really work with the projects in February I had the great pleasure of connecting with artists and performers Shay Donovan hello we got into some tough topics there was a lot of joy and positivity and her approach to working online during Oct nine part of my philosophy a little bit here has been to kind of resist adapting existing work to the digital space which I see a lot of people do beautifully and I think there's a need for that and that's a great way to exercise practice that that's your you know what you're feeling called to do but I think for me what I've been enjoys creating work specifically within these restrictions like being very intentional about embrace those restrictions and those obstacles and maybe mine them for a different way of making work rather than trying to adapt my normal practice within the constraints of the digital space I've been enjoying creating collaborating in new ways just in fun March was a bumper Munson database three fantastic episodes as well as celebrating the podcasts third anniversary with a special offer on P. Treon and freshening up the branding I had a great time talking with artist Clinton Kirkpatrick then producer towards MMN archer Katrina Michaels I'm production manager tab appeared safe from all duties entertainment followed by filmmakers large hand rakes and Nissan R. A. can here's Clinton toss could train at Debra Larson Nissan talking about creating characters and world building yes it's kind of like for me you know there is a lot of I realized a lot of hard storytelling and even one during the line of my research and my own destinations like all right Bach to your soul G. S. and then within the solar cheap what creation myths are I'm actually in the process of investigating various creation myths that have existed throughout human history in all different cultures what I'm doing is I'm checking pieces of the box you know whether it is modern day creation mess or Egyptian creation myths or whatever creation method is misty slow characters to come into my work I've read this creation myth recently where you these logs all from the sky and they create this ball you marshy area and then from this the first Youmans cute today I'm just like this is the right way you know it is the heart of storytelling heart arts for me that is my work is people look at my work and I'm like what is not or your moderator I listen to it all over the years really care either but it's like I listen to it all but I always think if you take the time any artist we have to see what they're doing to walk to invest it up but certainly for me when you start to investigate what might work as smaller practices there is a whole lot where you know there's a whole lot of world's arms you know hello world see arms there's a lot more still to come you know when we created this to really give it that immersive experience we asked all of our performers not only bring their characters to life but bring their characters to reality in the fact that we asked for Facebook pages to be created or Instagram accounts or linked in or you know we wanted to give them an online presence that our audience could go and find these characters in the real world each of their characters has a website that is dedicated to their characters professional backstory so for those audience members that want to really go down the rabbit hole to really explore their opportunities to find hints of these characters living in the on the internet so and I know between you've got some fun stories of guests that have reached out to you but I want you to speak if you can the creation process of trying to help build this character not just when you are on stage for that hour and a half but that lives in the real world I mean it was a fascinating experience to me because I am used to the rub us %HESITATION for instructing my character based on the clues in the tax and healing back to the technical in this case I'm creating the taxed the text is nearing it's it's very it's a flip of that kind of process but the exciting thing about being engaged in that creation is that you know the material so well my carrot so what's in the box and I can rattle off the drinks menu and like you know when in doubt to give extra Fulda to rely on and I have a lot of fun my car is a mystery themes box so I got to come up with the most terribly punny names such as the George all Mancini on the picture of Dorian gray Bruce Rankin steam %HESITATION %HESITATION %HESITATION %HESITATION bill and I have so much fun and so then I can make a game throughout the show all kind of assigning a signature cocktail to aghast and you know that he's here a lot had to go back to you it's fun and it's it is interesting having online presence with the character of I've had people reach out to me through my character my keys Instagram and I think Jim would leave like they think I am ninety there are elements of me he and Maggie had but I've not bought Tenda musician on the lot I got but it's it but it's really like someone was asking when my next gig was and I was like I mean but we've actually from my apartment that that okay it's funny how it's fabulous it's state like how much they invested in the lead in the wild and I think having those clients to you you know we have like will also %HESITATION connected on social media and things and having this carrot to how those elements as well grounds %HESITATION as a human one of the videos of my characters Instagram is me playing accordion and I haven't you know people reach out to me asking about the accordion which I will always happily talk about you know it's a great way to connect and %HESITATION I find like I did it creates another layer of emotion about it integrates in that technology even beyond the shot we had a really robust writing team when you're first coming up with this I mean we all kind of sat around a table are set into meetings just trying to like nail down the concept nail down the story you know we had thirty plot points that came and went and then the amount of research we have an entire told that talks about all of these libraries these historical libraries that are actual actual places you know they had actual significance in history and we had to pull all of that material just so that we could get back home to the performers so that when they had that fodder to keep pulling from as well but we didn't you know Todd night we we didn't just great this it was such a collaborative effort we were getting materials every day I remember you know our writing team would send us a draft of one scene it while at the same time somebody would send me a draft a character you know like Katrina would send me at the bar menu you know and then the next day somebody else send me a song I think between even wrote an entire song it had a clue it fell by the wayside as we change the gameplay my hustle but I once long and then there's another song that carries with links to another one who's a history teacher %HESITATION and I needed to see that was a pneumonic device about the toll limit and I up it's working credible it's all about last so it's gonna be talking I will I will pay you know and during the pandemic which is been such a time of you know we've all had to go inside of our bubble right a lot of us were missing that creative outlet so I think that pulling in all of these performers and what not to and allowed everybody to find a quick creative outlet in a time where were all very frustrated because we can't live our not our lives as normally as we want right so I don't even think we asked people with some of the stuff that got created you know I just said Hey could you have a little ditty because I think that Maggie you know I think a tree to your character and this other character they know each other and they went to school together or something and next day I have a page long twelve verses of the Ptolemaic empire you know so like it really gave us all a chance to be really creative you know and push the boundaries of how can we keep telling stories in a new imagine of way and just make everybody laughs because everything is so twenty twenty right then we did this D. I. Y. A. thing again with a little more budget this time via %HESITATION worked for an acting school we worked with their students on a movie together based on on their character vicious because we your last and me we are also from the acting department so we could work with that and we are making films we could work with that so the second movie with the together %HESITATION was also on many many festivals and was %HESITATION sorry how do you say and that his English is better than it was discovered it was discovered from a release Emmons and you have to write it really is %HESITATION %HESITATION yes get released in the U. S. yes it's behind bars yeah the Blu ray yes SRS and I'm also I was really proud of that and really happy about it the second movie is about seven girls in the pharmacy and then maybe %HESITATION cherished florist so it's it's kind of fantastical but very very subtle and it was the first time for us that we've worked with a non sambal and those were seven girls who were like in their twenties early twenties early twenties they were just finishing drama school not so easy but it was fun and it was also it for us we learned a lot to work with a big group I work very closely with the actors four of them M. when we were developing Leon I think and you said and I had just started hanging out again and I don't know I I was thinking about how to do a lo fi science fiction project that was still having it was still dreaming about getting into cinemas and making something that that woods translates to a wider audience so I was thinking about how how can I use John ready to do that that was on my mind and then I think we just had a really long conversation about death because that's the fun guy I am I basically just took that conversation which was really long and turned it into a script so that would be these two characters in that center which I think I because Nissan and Leon is not me but that would be a lot of the stuff in that that we had discussed that's how that sort of came about so so so I in that sense worked with Nissan to come up with it all and then %HESITATION for back it means and later permeates actually we started working with this acting school like Nissan said I was a teacher about and I get sort of bored with teaching acting and not doing anything so I started developing characters with the students I had originally planned this was Nissan's idea to to make short films with them so they could use that all the demo reels and and in case of the beckons group we quickly realized all right this is not the short film this is possibly a future and %HESITATION yeah I mean they came up with that characters had different exercises to improvise and to come up with characters intuitively plus with characters that would fit them and would be what they would need in the demo rear to %HESITATION and then what I would have them improvise with each other and come up with scenes and then slowly we would all see all right this is a possible setting like all the characters you came up with would probably do community service at some point they're all pretty antisocial and then we would support the characters and situations together and see how do these incorrect and then we would think all right you too make an interesting committed you'll so let's think about that and I think we had half a year it was really luxurious and our kids bed hobby yelp of just playing around and then I would go and they have seen all the stuff they would have come up with themselves and then I would just read the script according to that and %HESITATION mid was more compressed with the next thing we did with that school with over many ex but it's really similar to it then we may do a web series together also called the acting students we worked a lot with that school to find out projects where we would have them improvise all the dialogue on sets and I would just go okay now that thing you said was funny do that again so yeah from this very close work with the actress the characters and I look I think I mean I like that and I like the results yeah me too we got musical in April with host of the world fusion show Derek Jordan and me session down he's he talked about modeling Siri and lasts an ideal locked on circumstances we used to do live improvisations when I was working at B. C. T. V. N. properly but because the lock down it's been closed so we've done various workarounds one is that I will get my artists to record a solo video of them playing and then I will basically play along with that and try to pretend that's life sometimes well depending on how good I'm able to do that you would think it is live a lot of the times most the time see I seem to be able to pull that off but now that we're in lockdown mode I stopped doing the live or this kind of improvisation over top with her video the new format that I'm using is just taking pre recorded videos from my casts %HESITATION and that's been the last few shows just because I wanted to keep the show going I felt it was more important to keep the show going so I'm not doing a live music right now but we'll get back to it I mean things will open up again we'll be able to do that again but we have great audio engineer and we have three cameras at BCTV so its quality is very high somewhat limited now more at my soon calls but it's still fun and it's still I get to showcase these fantastic artists and I feel like the workaround is better than not doing the show it also I'm just trying to keep everything going forward what has your lock sign experience pain as a musician well in this league panic those laws my money is gone for more than a day most welcome and I'm still going to a new routine so I thought well this is a fun clothes look on as the %HESITATION I have the rest of my life %HESITATION gig of the form and %HESITATION you know we'll be doing it when I'm eighty the way in the out to the local public realm panicking so you take him two years out three years out even I've seen it all but in the grand scheme of things is not nothing too big so I thought well a mother trying you last time I have to try to be as productive as I can be and %HESITATION flex new muscles reading when you do a loss against you and you end up just being all of heart and soul of %HESITATION during the same thing all the time is is so can be very relentless off from twenty three I've done lot tunings here pretty much solid for the past ten years so that's my target I'm sorry it's good to kind of step wife not really in the cry of them wrote music and talking to people %HESITATION AA or podcasts and training people is good you can't convert them selves in in a frying pan lot harder and musician or filmmaker will put costs social media personal really bubble as things went quiet people that is very cold for what you do not tell you what you should be creative and try and log me off my music but I see a above that mediates its to me to be cry if it's an issue of free lost all lock and navigate myself that's more important to me they're not you play music as much as I love playing music well hello I lost all the Arkham controlling BB king mackerel basically nothing my strife people strive for that because it all has no point being in a high jump playing music well %HESITATION on paper they sound amazing but the end of the day you're welcome to somebody else in your control involvement %HESITATION which is always good we went stateside in may with a fabulous catch up with my old pal from queen's university Belfast Dr Gary Rhodes and my new friends fellow arts podcaster Neeson rocklands can you remind me so happily of my arrival in Ireland but also so I try to be unflappable that's impossible and one of the spookiest moments and not a horror film spooky but I guess you'd say nervous moments was when I walked in to teach that course because I felt a little out of place not only is it immigrate myself and living in another country for the first time but I felt I felt a little %HESITATION I would never want to be seen presumptuous in teaching a course on Irish cinema in Ireland I had taught Irish semi actually America previous a couple of times what I ate that was a bit nervous actually going in to teach all of you because I thought gosh I feel ill at ease real ill informed maybe you know to take all that long since as an American and in Belfast what I suppose my interest would be two fold in and one I think it started with horror and they're certainly these tremendous connections between horror and Ireland Irish literature Irish folklore from obviously the bean she threw a film I saw and I I don't think a lot of Irish film scholars I don't know that any of never really talked about it much but when I was ten twelve years old I I was in love with horror movies I was also in love with Francis Ford Coppola who directed the godfather films in Apocalypse Now and early in his career he had made a film called dementia thirteen race early nineteen sixties and it was a gothic horror story set in Ireland it was actually shot in Ireland and you know it's readily available on YouTube it's rather well known film in terms of cold blood studies because it was basically a second film but I think Irish film studies it's completely unknown connections go deeper I mean stoker was Anglo Irish they're such a great tradition of Irish gothic novels and as I grew my interest in horror I grew in my interest at heart literature as well as horror films so there's all these fantastic connections and Irish horror stories on film but the other thing to happen to me when I was a teenager was by about the age of thirteen and of course you know I grew up in the state of Oklahoma I grew up in a town that I will in American terms certainly most mmhm we probably consider small town twenty five thousand people I grew up in I guess I'm trying to think of the the best way to say it but it probably a and is a native American everything you know kind of a masculine type culture in terms or that parameters and so John Huston's films spoke to me greatly as a teenager his films like the Maltese falcon an African queen and these films with Humphrey Bogart who was one of the great cinema tough guys and you know his later films like the man who would be king with Sean Connery and Michael Caine and you know you can kind of see probably quickly understand maybe or or see that you know kind of okay a lot of his films in his life %HESITATION I became fast about Houston's life he was quite an explorer and hunter and you know very masculine and all that very much human waves kind of hit me way of twentieth century American cinema and he was deeply interested in Irish literature and by the time I was in high school he was making his film the debt based on choice and there was a credible documentary film made about it Houston and showed the behind the scenes footage showed in talking at length this is before the kind of making of featurettes we know today by by a large number some examples but they weren't it was before DVD it was before that cottage industry so to speak so I S. I became entranced by the time I was sixteen and seventeen I became entranced with James Joyce and the dead when Houston said in his mind it was probably the greatest short story ever written in the English language that spoke volumes to me the film version he made which I found to be quite faithful I'm talking at length for question and now maybe wearing what but my interest came from these different angles from horror as well as Joyce and then about that same time Beckett because I was also one of my other favorites as a teenager was a Buster Keaton and Samuel Beckett had made keeping film yeah you know later in king's life of course and and a kind of although guard film and I was I was also getting in transfer you know it's easy to romanticize thing when you're a teenager and I you know the passion for it all and I was and I was getting interested in basket because of then his work with Keaton and I was particularly intrigued because Kevin brown will have made this incredible documentary about Keaton and had forty two Keaton's saying you know you didn't even understand the film he made with that you know which I think yes he's one of the yeah exactly here is what the genius filmmakers in my mind he he said he didn't quite understand it but he liked packet and everything so I was coming in Ireland for all these different directions to conclude I would say that in the night you know in the nineteen nineties America really when their kids always had this love affair with Ireland is regrettable exceptions during some immigration periods baby in the nineteenth century and so forth but there's a lot of love affairs in in the later twentieth century certainly from you know everybody you know celebrating St Patrick's day to the nineties when the commitments particularly the film version you too there was a particular love affair with I mean it happened different times before in the sixties I think with JFK for a lot of people but in the nineties it was like it was Neil Jordan and Jim Sheridan's films were exploding onto the scene not my left footed one you know at the academy award and Chris I was graduating from high school and about to start university right at that moment then there's you too and I particularly fell in love like I heard it on the radio and I was driving I mean I remember the moment so clearly I was driving down I. forty in Oklahoma City are your state that runs around a lot of America and I'm burning down the highway in an old car the only one I could afford at the time I'm burning on the highway and this voice comes on the radio this ban what I didn't know the name and I had to ask a friend later that day who is singing this and it was the cranberry so you're gonna set but you know I heard including that kind of Irish weighed in at the end of the song which went from the Irish but meeting pop music even more Irish sound at the end of it just seem to speak to me in ways and again as a more romantic young person a romantic maybe more the German sense of that term my great grandfather was from Ireland scored so on Cherokee and mainly that but I'm you know I have a McCord whose family was actually from the north of Ireland even America from Cork and I had many once is a little tiny child very memories on more work well on all of that and so I had that connection to Ireland as well so forgive this long biography ladies that I fell in love with this and then I fell in love with an Irish woman who was in America and all roads lead you know what I had to leave but I had to leave and it was this tremendous love affair I cannot tell you how achingly I miss Carrickfergus one of my favorite places how much I've missed the Belfast city centre the people there there's so many Dunluce there were so many places I like to go and go repeatedly I just unending love affair there's nothing ever wrong with having back position with that stuff if you're not judging the culture around you then you're just being ignorant to whatever's going on and being ignorant not understand the culture is not going to nourish you as someone that appreciates the culture and you're being a producer like you know if you're going to make content you know make sure you make it was a good purpose I mean if you think you're producing the content these extra help culture one way or another %HESITATION by the stop you I think part of us being podcast assisting our podcast is preserving the cultural little bit so the way we're sort of helping with people understanding and analyzing the culture I'm sure you have it on several occasions I've gone back to like you know seeing how movies were like the fifties and sixties and seventies stuff and seeing the mentality that the world had then and see how different it is now well the stuff that we're making right now can you imagine what people you know twenty fifty a hundred years from now if they go back and find the stumble upon this L. as wow this is what their culture was like during this kind of situation and how much you wanna bet that like at least two or three generations from now people are gonna be curious on how people were during cove it there go back these podcasts and stuff be like wow this is how they got your cove it we talked about before but like you said it yourself would like the public access TV will you ever come back and see some of those old public access TV's and see just like how they did their stuff you know how they would set up their shows I get getting that look into like their realities and such you know like if we're watching like movies in the seventies some like that how much like the Cold War may have influence on the make certain movies and such like that's something that we're never going to experience but like as an analyst we can look back and how they're making movies in the seventies such realized okay this is how they got through the potential existential dread that they could die tomorrow from nuclear warfare going back to like the thirties and such seeing all those like the classic Looney Tunes and such are like the classic cartoons where they they influence are they inspire people hate you should go to war or you should help people you know it invest in the military in such as nail if you go back like that's how they got through the potential jet that they could be aerated by Germany tomorrow you know that's something to help them yeah as an analyst you're always going to be looking back and so we're making stuff right now that other analysts chemistry look back on then it's going to benefit society at the in the day Jan was all about creativity with artistically week absent a K. eight slayer one artwork and doctor Rabaa Mikhail I researcher with University College London's community covert project definitely so I mean I can't say you know it's it's always been enjoyable and definitely being able to have people to do it because of Hobbs you know the office and the spectrum what people saw knocking down its costs awful and you know I want to start selling at comic conventions that was a really difficult time because you get like really hot streaks up point and then it's like oh you know like I'm I'm just here to sell like my outlook on the effort you know for minimalism issue some people are just unfortunate very nice I think you know especially when you are on the PP should always want to encourage people to us I've always believed in my positive reinforcement opposition positive like pushing people you know like I'm always happy to criticize someone in a positive way if someone says tell me everything that's wrong with this also well we'll bill as long as you let me tell you what's wrong with it as well but yeah it is great and also in Leeds as well one of the amazing conventions I mean it's most target now but fall festival thought was I could not festival and that was one of the first proper conventions I want Sir I used to go like religious in a best friend of must win sisterhood and offered them as well and but I'll go on just look all the emission outlook connection with plan for like Olean although she's all these amazing comic out as far as criminal we need to do this when you know any upon this of them would call themselves such an amazing time G. situation out work I actually met should should a lovely woman called Valentina and she ended up I think I'm ever at fault double on the gun shows at work was so inspiring that was another Austin's been amazing to me Schendel designing my first ever thought it was she designed it for men gosh you're so lovely she's helped with my outlook as well and she thought about what she moved back to Italy I like I miss all the time which moved up to a million and she still bought a shirt she was like and it only shows the only on the phone so so when all of a sudden jaw crusher men's and basketball advise yeah I think I think it's really important personally I try to match all the also Paul I don't and never will I mean I myself to forget about all of my friends so I do not stray if Boston Celtic forget also it works my hooks yeah I think especially if you wanted to start out just dole so critical of yourself that's probably adversity given to myself even non if all the advice because people think that have to be perfect straight away in a society where we feel we have to do everything right the first time it's not all I'm sure to give an opponent diminishes and shows a lot of people produce all the mission on this quiet Walmington on the people really thought about working for the sometimes I don't like as much like so many people out there think oh gosh you know you really really good tomorrow you know so hi Kim imposter syndrome will be all see some of the actions that we've been doing with participants have been around people's experiences of lock down their experiences of pandemic their experiences may be accessing subsidized or experiencing loneliness or isolation or the anxiety that comes with the pandemic and expressing that through all forms sorry we've run a couple of very very interesting workshops the bathroom is run by somebody called Marana he works with us he is actually PhD student he's whacking on interventions with people with dementia and say she doesn't so very interesting things such as embroidery said the mindfulness that comes with android jury analysts say the find my skills and you know everything that comes with doing this very very intricate and still full think for a long period of time hello webshop was on collage and we looked at how we might be able to express our feelings food medium of college and denied that might involve looking at lots of old magazines and you know dissipate pad over things that you might have lying around and looking at maybe what the newspapers and thinking about thinking about white why you're picking them out and say you know when you see somebody's collection piece of paper they might have used to set in color they might be used to set some pictures that might be sets and what's to bring the picture together save it might look like a complete mess of the picture it might not be completely as that sixty correct it might look wonderful that's beside the point well the points of the clutch is is to look at that and think how does this reflect my experience and in looking at reflecting my experience how do I tend to talk about my expense had I frame my experience and if I can have this old narrative around the experience then maybe I might be able to address the issues that come up during the experience for example my college in particular I happen and I thought this is very very interesting I was thinking why are you doing this myself my clutch looked at that Meghan and Harry into G. and I picked up pictures of Meghan and Harry and for some reason I also picked out what's that what to do with the interview was around understanding and telling my side of the story and your family and these kinds of things and and and I'm picking these things out and thinking why I picked these things out maybe I'm thinking about my family maybe I'm thinking about my %HESITATION laid the I. eight projects myself well the way that I am talking about how I experienced things and when you look at these and then you look at %HESITATION everybody's colleges and you ask everybody to talk about the colors you can see some very very very interesting stories you know you have about people's experiences and rather than sitting down and doing a traditional interview with somebody which we might do in reception you know it might be very very structured when you got somebody to express their opinion through the medium of all his meeting the college you might get a lot more rich states if not you might get a lot more interesting data from that goal you might get more of a glimpse of the passage rather than excessive structured ons is that they might want to tell you just to tell you save we won these elections just for that practice to understand how people have been experiencing quite a bit and that's one of the things that we've been doing is part of that committee got the project we will say it does not focus groups of people so we've spoken G. as well because they subscribe as in people that work in the community %HESITATION whacking intoxication and community people lacking in that close our teas and social activists and teachers to Austin about well what do you think of the various constipation what can we do to make these things much more accessible for people with what do you think of the other issues around what's happening you know on these patients stuff yeah and as well as that would diagnoses like traditional Quincy black which we have to take we headed back to the states in July for excellent conversations with Dr Charlie hole and palm Munter to talk about their newly published pics funny rules and feeding feed him what I would just really you know like to thank you again for giving me a chance to talk about my mom and to really promote the family rules book just so it's so important to those of us who have been care givers with people who suffered with Alzheimer's and dementia I understand that it's not easy in a row to be on we have to find ways we all have to find our own ways to get those memories back we know that our loved ones are not going to remember them no matter how much we want them to have moments when they'll remember them but they won't be the same and of those memories when they're stolen from you find a way to get them back in this was just my way of giving those memories back to my my children my grandchildren my brother and his family a way for them to kind of remember %HESITATION you know Graham on the way in which they wouldn't remember her normally yes and so now when you see and hear Fanny rules you'll know that I'm talking about my mom well when the power if you think about it I mean they're such a great strong you know conversation about that is the fact that here we have an individual with a twelfth grade U. S. education %HESITATION which means no college no formal education beyond that who is wise beyond her years I mean things that she would tell me one of those conversations that she would tell me is about being mediocre she says don't be mediocre don't be lukewarm just want to be hot you want to be called she said because mediocre is just a block and it just settles for whatever and so I took that message and I think crafted into this one and it's that mediocre settles to the bottom and complains about the view and I never wanted to be a person who complained about the view I wanted to celebrate the view and so she would also tell me that I could be anything I wanted to be so if you want to understand how I can actually move from this or town in West Virginia and I actually received two post graduate degrees end up with a PhD you know all of this is because the fact that this woman said I can be whatever I wanted to be but whatever I wanted to be be the best of it that I can't and she didn't put any parameters on it she said if you want to be a janitor you want to sweep floors she said that be the best floor sweeper there AS and Fannie told me that I needed to clean in the corners because she said it could floor sweeper will clean the corners because anybody can sweep in the middle %HESITATION I've been a feminist since I was about eight and try to get girls and the little league that was impossible back then so I'm hoping that it will ring that bell loudly this is what we do to women and what we've always done it women in this business and we need to rethink that %HESITATION because it's not worth it no people shelf life it shouldn't be a matter of shelf life it should be a matter of what they can contribute and for how long my publicist you telling me the lot of the people who are reviewing it are women so I would guess that's the natural audience I mean the subtitle is women of a certain age in Hollywood but I think anyone who is curious about how things work you don't have to be a film historian to be curious about how Harvey Weinstein could happen and video such an ogre for so many years how did he get away with that kill the casting couch she goes all the way back home it was on a normal accepted event info woman wanted to be up on that screen triggered a light on the couch first it was just %HESITATION unfortunately and given I don't know that that's true anymore I don't think it is certainly there are rules predators out there but it's not as widespread as it once was and I think anybody who cares about the issue will be curious about the stores at least I hope so it was fun to write because of the feminist background I I'll say that because I was a clinical psychologist for so many years I felt that I could get inside their heads and give the reader %HESITATION some idea about how women think about these things how they process that kind of a precedence and disappointment %HESITATION barrel aging process itself you know if we know some of them did pretty well without I think the strength of my writing is always the internal dialogue it's not so much what happens is how the the woman processes the information and that was extremely fun to write because I think I know more about that probably than anything having been in practice so many years I took some time off in August and released some back up material while I was away from the computer June and July were really busy with recordings and normal service resumed with guests focusing on positivity and creativity respectively Dominic Sam and Daniel Hass hi Michelle younger generation because I'm pretty all right now I'm I'm around forty rise hotels and I can see people young so things like that so that's what I want to say and I want to tell people of course is not good to hear it sometimes the younger people feel like it's that nagging your nagging me right now I'm gonna want to bring it out it either more reality form that this things that's happened it happens to everyone so I want to talk about it happens to everyone we cannot hide it we can we have to break break through the wall and share it the man is difficult for me like for example it's hard for me to show my feelings to my wife sometimes she said you know you don't hold my hands anymore than that %HESITATION why don't I hold my hold on the hold is in well I don't know why it's just it's not like I'm I'm a touchy feely kind of guy you know it's hard to open up sometimes so doing this part because actually helped me as well because I feel like if I do good out there good will come back if I motivate people I will motivate myself as well just like there was a a youtuber dive was watching the other day he told us he said everyone has the same amount of time in the week what we do in that time brings a success %HESITATION differs between different people so if I wake up in the morning the first thing I do is I look at myself on and go to Instagram or whatever instead I could have used that if you know a few seconds and morning when I wake up look in the mirror and say I'm gonna do well today so in that actually brings a little bill impact to your own life and two into anyone's life right or if you're if you're a kid and you in the house if you wake up in the morning instead of going down there say Hey mom what's for breakfast you could say Hey mom good morning right Houston well things like that I mean there's just one tiny thing that can actually bright as a person's life but if my kid if you wake up the monies that had that good morning %HESITATION I feel good you know I feel good and not not a whole good but still good right in just one step up on once they would build upon upon just one tiny happen as a but not happen this eventually I feel like eventually everything will fall into place and everything will picks up from there see details like this the seven habits habits it's been an interesting Sir journey for man and not some space because like I said it was really my my good friend do is a lot more in depth with film I've always grown up watching films and really enjoying cinema but for me it was wasn't something I really thought about getting into what was interesting was I feel like what I sort of looked back and found with everything is that for me personally I think that the storytelling aspect is really where I feel like I've always had the most deaths and success wins but I've always kind of struggled with the transition from page to screen as far as like visualizing what angle is to use and constraining myself to like okay fine but the tripod here with this sort of lands like this is a result I'm going to get I can't do it in my head so %HESITATION you know for a long time I I really was telling myself okay you know I really wanna do writing and directing and I can take on both but with the project that I did in twenty eighteen I really found that you know while I can do it and I can make it happen I feel like it's better for me to have the right people by my side that can actually translate what I'm writing better than even I feel like I can and again maybe that some kind of like weird mental hurdle which in ten years I'll figure out that like it's just me serve protecting myself from actually making the films as a director myself but at least at this stage in my life I'm sort of feeling like where I need to go with things is finding really good directors who can translate the writing and the way in which I can write the writing if that makes sense it's one of those things were as I'm writing something I only see it as kind of a stage play where is like everything just kind of a flat canvas and it's all sort of coming to life around me but I'm not seeing like you know okay when this person's talking like this if if I have this sort of camera movement or something like that none of that enters into my mind even the least bit I think with you know as time's gone on I just sort of made that mental jump so it's been nice because as I look back on everything a lot of the films that I've made or worked on you know I was either more is like as co directors somebody that was there just one set hoping things go smoothly you know maybe more as a producer or something like that and there's always been in my mind the best films that I've made with a good team and not one of those things where you know when I tried to make on I feel like they work and I feel like they have a good message to them but as far as how everything comes out on the screen there's not a lot of refinement you know I feel like I'm more of this let's just have a camera free flowing and stuff like that and that always just doesn't work as fast as it could for something that's just more visualized by someone who can make that transition more than I can in September %HESITATION do you drama producer boleh more help to celebrate our one hundredth episode entry nerd style with fascinating stories about adopting his father's literary works while also contributing to the advancement sent audio technologies and modes of production we then heard from Dr Fiona noble about her researching contemporary Spanish cinema I'm talking about alternative approaches to the academic so they I have to say mystically lucky in that I'm pretty good with the theory of things but not so good with the practice and so I have gained producer editor who is amazing %HESITATION figure out ways of executing the crazy ideas that I come up with and I had his passed away a few years ago but I have this wonderful wonderful engineer what you believe yourself to a stop not only was he triggered recordings but he could just build devices that hi imagine during you need to have the particular thing that we were talking about do you go back so I like working in stereo I like doing as much with the stereo space as I possibly can one of the hardest things was to figure you know do I want to block actors around in the stereo spaced and then somehow walk the production or the creation of sound effects in some way that tracks them and when you put all this stuff in the same recording board line up and sound like it's the same spot this isn't very difficult to do of course the more you utilize the stereo space the more difficult it is and I want to get really clean dialogue tracks I like to not worry about anything but the voices when I'm in the studio that's the only thing I want to deal with I record all my voice is moderate but I need a visual tracks they can be hand around the stereo proceeding on waste with both panting you know so panning and volume and a little bit of reverb to create you know are they from the back of a culture to use things like that but then how to make the sound effects follow rob so I was talking to Howard our engineer and there's some kind of a joke it's only funny to engineers I don't really understand it but they would make this joke about it monophonic Kampot meeting some sometimes you would cancel liberal left to right which of course you can't do it I had heard him say that a couple of times and I was like how hard we've worked with MS technology which I'll explain in a second I want you to build me a monophonic camp and so she did the way you talk about three months later he came back with more acts okay so this is the pattern and over here we've got one of the lot one of the dogs is the volume which is you know basically does your in and out of this does your back and forth and okay now explain how this thing works yeah that's such a good question I think that was one of the key points that came back for and I'd submit the first draft of the manuscript to the publisher is and the talks about four I needed to do to prove that threat and the idea of subversive Spanish cinema city the big not that it wasn't there but that you know just by adding things like and the conclusions each chapter unexploded back you can prove that threads together and the artists such readers on their anonymous obviously they are such pertinent questions that really made me think about the significance of the title and how it related to what I was talking about it because I think if you look at the carcass of material for the big and the filling car pass it probably looks quite mainstream in some ways I'm not necessarily looking hot experimental filmmaking in Spain that's not part of what that be extinct there's some really interesting things happening in kind of alternative cinematic practice says worst filmmaking practice in Spain especially kind of post economic crisis that's not my forte told us not something I'm particularly knowledgeable back to somebody like Rebecca north send you she has the blog nobody knows entity where she talks about Spanish cinema I don't know how active she is barking at the minute she's from the northeast actually and I don't know if you've ever come across %HESITATION but she's a really knowledgeable person I buy alternatives Spanish cinema practices that's not what this because it's not a private kind of we cannot what's happening with the mainstream if that makes sense it's more about looking hot you know the key players all Spanish cinema there are some films in there that are less well known there are some filmmakers you know the likes of petrol model of our who is probably you know the most well known Spanish filmmaker certainly in the U. K. ET bought depict deals rather with subversive nests within those kind of mainstream contacts and looking out hi %HESITATION the positional filmmakers we're working under Franco's the likes of Carlos Salazar or at least customer Langat London about a name he's the uncle off have yet course people like them your last identifying filmmaker is under Frankel working June the dictatorship shooting about a strict censorship conditions that there were at the time so it's looking at those kind of precursors to what's happening in contemporary manifestations of performance and that presentations of performance in Kentucky sponsor and kind of seeing the offense comes through you from those oppositional filmmakers into the present day and what that looks like and how you can become %HESITATION means all speaking out against the common additives or the dominant ideas in society October so a reunion with merry at Spiro sketchy I previously spoke today at the twenty eighteen late shows this time we discussed her ad member French performance landing I also reached out to other friends of artist Sally match and a bunch of us recorded memories of Sally for an episode released ahead of commemorative events marking the first anniversary of her death in case you missed the hidden track at the end well here southeast coast companion and collaborator Tom Jennings reciting his first the North Sea fought in a way I found it in some ways liberating because I'm going to have number %HESITATION while I'm on an island in the Atlantic and that's why %HESITATION that and and the hard to get my head around them has but also very exciting I've got somebody producing will be in Africa during the time of the production and it's and my director is in Ireland it's just kind of also beautiful that I'm someone who's very international and I've traveled a lot and I have friends all over the world for me it's always been about you know other time zones and languages etcetera so it feels like the world is kind of stepped up to accepting that is more common than normal in every day and that excites me because it's just really creating that feeling of collectivity globally and %HESITATION I personally love that so in a way it is deliberating the strike while B. R. R. your chili but streaming islands you they can go worldwide and research that I think is a worldwide competition and %HESITATION we're having an yes it's exciting it's exciting to have that but I performed live for the first time the other week here on the island we had a little open Mike at the cafe and actually there's a lot of performers on the Simons strangely enough and it's the first time I'd perform live the new year and a half last time was in Newcastle actually enough and he was just so exciting for everyone just like all you know we have been sharing this moment an audience it's been difficult yet challenging but if we can find a way to have a balance in the future it's kind of interesting it does open up a lot of possibilities I know there's a lot of companies have in the states and in other countries you know been working digitally already for years they were kind of ahead of the game a little bit if you will yeah it's an interesting chance yet like I'm saying I think it's about the balance I want it all to go online forever now they really don't but how can we find a way to you know make a hybrid form or medium it's interesting we're definitely it's been a learning curve imagine a moderate offshore breeze when the tide begins to wane with the lapping of tiny waves blown back against the grain battles in the sun crackle as they shift this way and that while you stroll along the shoreline with Sally chewing the North Sea fast in November I never did like this museum and Stacy asked McKenzie frankly and caught up with Brandon Conley talking about detecting world a cheese your own adventure calendar that we have very much enjoyed this month's I do really enjoy this topic I like talking about the British Museum because truthfully I have a love hate relationship with that because the very first time I got to visit the British Museum was in the summer of twenty eighteen so I had not yet finished my degree I was the summer before my senior year of budding anthropologist just like jumping in my seat waiting in line to get into the British Museum because it is you're absolutely right this global institution where you can see thousands of years of human culture across the world in one place started walking through and seeing all of the things and wondering where they came from and how they came to be into that institution and learning more about the ways in which those objects were acquired and then some of the contentions regarding the fact that a lot of those objects have been requested to be formally returned and subsequently denied so the more I learned the more that the magic was kind of stripped away from me so it's been really wonderful institution I absolutely believe that something like that should exist but at the same time yeah you have really big ethical questions that need to be answered and yes people do challenge me on this topic they will often say well especially in the case of the British Museum if they started giving things back they have to give everything back and then they have nothing left which is such an exaggeration and far from the truth but I think that certainly concessions do you need to be made very simply the start you told a few items you have in your infantry unless you go through the store you will lose on the choir of right and so the my simple level keeping a record of well I have a small lamb well I I you know I I'm carrying this style the other not to spoil it I need to objecting counted but you keep the title of those the next can influence the choices that are available to you at different points so for example if you got a big cocaine to come across a big gulp padlock you can unlock it and if you don't you can help so at the most basic level yes you're actually do a physical symptoms but there are other things you may wish to record and write down old drawl at various points finally in December I had a delightful time with the of the last of the Cinemalaya Neil's podcast and learn lows but life as a jobbing actor in the U. S. film and television industries from Kate H. anarchists yeah it's I mean it's funny you say it's like kind of like a research project which I mean that I think that's a perfect example of what it is because %HESITATION I went to school for history I'm a trained ademas historian because you know that's not my field and I want to sound too pretentious in there I'm not gonna call myself when the film historian but %HESITATION you know I did study anyway %HESITATION anyway you are to no sales the story no one but no I am I studied history went to school for history because as I said before was a lifelong passion and I really do think that film is a good way of introducing not exactly educating because obviously you know there's too much Hollywood stuff like the last tool which is in the army %HESITATION but now which is actually funny like to go on a limb that little tangent armor medieval representations of armor are better in the first half of the cinema rather than what is going on today unfortunately but I think it's a great way to really see what people are into and see what they're not into and then see how they can relate it back to our world tangy and how to understand what we're doing wrong or what we did do wrong in the past whether it be through art or social movements and how we can fix that today and I think through filmmaking that introduces a lot of topics that are can be often difficult and can really meet people not make people but can really make them feel comfortable enough to talk about those issues so all of it is being an open vessel so to be comedy to be drama and just really being open and so when you're open and you know your team is setting you up for these projects and you're going out for these projects and you're up and you're down and you're crying you're vulnerable you're happy in your court you're sad the most important thing is just to be true to your authentic self you have your bass line and then you have people you study with Susan Batson B. A. T. S. O. and she is an amazing book called truth she's doing virtual people can you drop ins for twenty dollars a day Monday through Friday she has a lot of international people who study with her she's Nicole Kidman's acting coach for over twenty years you'll have been noticed I sure Madonna %HESITATION brushy coach is all these people for their films so being trained by the crown telegram right so you can be trained at what level and and it's like the best investment you're gonna make is in yourself with your time to follow the the food you eat the coaches you study with the podcast you listen to the people we associate with so all of that goes hand in hand with the characters I choose because based on life it's not just linear and I could tap into different experiences that I personally experience or that I've observed to being a great observer I love observing and so something directly hasn't happened to me I can with Google you can research it you can watch some like minded movies you can check out the director projects that they did a part for T. that's for films or TV shows you know the tone of the show grey's anatomy it's always sunny cold case you know the tone of the show you know the casting director like no other body work %HESITATION in there do great work you have to build a relationship with the casting director they keep bringing you when they like your work so if they want you on the show it's just a matter of time before it happens you just have to keep up and just show up and do great work and then make sure you're taking care of your body mind and spirit because they like I said they're very hand in hand with one another you know doing different characters is like it's always sunny it's like corky it's far sign in and they're like oh they like that then you can that's permission to play to take that a step further and discover where you can go when you get on set you've already done the preparation so everything I'm telling you studying coaching researching that's the tone of the show that's the preparation of the character before you show up when you get to set you already know your lines you already know your character and it's an opportunity to get out of your head and get more into your got into the intelligence of your body and to play and be professional because there's the takes a village and there's hundreds of people on set and especially now we want to be very mindful of staying within the parameters of everyone doing their job to make a party is you know the hair stylist like if they ask you your opinion cool but they're already communicating with directors and assistants and people and everyone has the domino effect of how they're showing up in everyone's doing their best so you know when you have the character you that's your ultimate time where you get to play and have a lot of fun well what a year it's been and it's because of you the listener supper still going and approaching four years of learning more and more of a different landscapes and audio visual cultures but I want you to tell me what have you enjoyed what would you like to hear more off and learn to fight and what might be missing that we haven't touched on yet and I know there's lots of topics that we haven't touched on and we're working our way Brian tape let me know by email to the audio visual cultures at G. mail dot com MSH eighty cultures part on any of the socials it's been a tree privilege to speak to so many interesting guests from such a diversity of backgrounds and I'm really looking forward to what twenty twenty to bring I'm always happy to hear from folks who'd like to cast on the show and I'll be back nagging at my artist friends to come speak to you because their class and she really need to know about them for night mind yourselves and catch you next time
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Audiovisual Cultures episode 33 – A Day at the Fringe

this is audio visual cultures the podcast Patrick Simons signed an image based cultural production I am the creator and host Paul the bladder and this addition Andre Sheila and I spend the day at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe and speak to one quarter of just these plays will see back Montefiore apart the comedy trips shows on tonight also talk about it saying she's an improvised silent movie and the play and taken a nine iron we begin though with some thoughts on our previous friends experience why is it that we are speaking out going to help in the background we're in a very face eight %HESITATION during the French the festival anymore do we just do this thing that inhabits the fringes of the festival but which has basically taken over from the first time the enemies make a this is our third time yeah a third time as a unit I did a bit of stuff for me yeah thank M. A. N. meaning the specific reason that we are here we wanted to just do a little bit of it but this year we don't three day stint before this time we just come out for the day there's a reason why we hate us because we just got back from a bit of traveling elsewhere and the specific reason why we are in this the company in the present time and we're just going across Bristol Scranton a bit to see a show at the gilded balloon TV it is the colonels a friend of mine is of a four person comedy sketch troupe called just please please whose show starts in Hoffman and we just bumped into imagination flaring in the places as people are wants to do for their own shows often have a visitor's register at the front and the somebody else doing it use my people to be firing for money for somebody else but someone with the right people who do the show's firing themselves with fliers that contained images of their interface so it's like just a tiny little celebrity encounters although it doesn't seem trusting coach people to go and see the shows %HESITATION anyway we are here to see his name's we'll see back once and he was a student at Nichols university I never told him so that's why I call my friends rather than well afterwards and then going to see at least two more things but tickets for an in person to see if that thing that we haven't because this free stuff on three different things my currency and then clean as anything with leaping straight about Lexaria onto a train and heading back to Newcastle and X. it up a little bit more this year because normally we head straight for the comedy and so we're going to see later we did see if I'm not here but I want something that we did get fired for and we thought oh sure why not let's give it a go we thought the archery interestingly the name of the pay he doesn't display properly on the ticket because the ticket continental and he with a capital even every possible an Irish so it can take in a marriage I think it's a mixture of mention Irish history right down my alley where for the second out right now %HESITATION so what comes as branching out in our lives he's seeing only mostly comedy or an entirely comedy your Highness next year we might see the Hoff committee last year I did a bit of a write up on my blog about everything well most of the things I think we did last year so if you are interested in reading about our adventures from last year and sent me a flyer dot blogspot dot com or something like that but if you don't know you want to read this blog entry because only name did not there was the real any of the past because last year and I have some videos actually and I put some images of the blog post about changing nightmare live it's really good fun yeah people remember that TV show that right here okay game shows on the fringes really it's still in the early nineties one where they wear a helmet which blinds them and they would direct from a that makes but then after awhile I realized it was a bit silly so they gave the machine within our unit so they could actually sure %HESITATION nice the size because I knew you wouldn't be able to see what was going on in the show that you pay for it was very funny because the people there were four people together volunteering themselves trying to become the chosen one those people were not there and they were to women as well which is disappointing so there was one and he was killed off pretty quickly because they want to defend and all the four people right now and then there was only I think you do medicamento very funny he was very different right okay let me to become a performer and a shirt and didn't get to see the show yeah you were very useful as a colleague on that particular day because you're able to fill me making it one of us are not able to do that zero like India's record signed by my technologies are much diminished the moment Phil Murphy people for the first year we came to the we did the last week last year we date the first weekend this year we're in a day right in the middle of the when we did the most weekends the first year and it would look like it's been through traumatized it was knee deep in people with their exhaust just trying to get from a to B. all the performers were at Monaco after seeing it's a really tough time of year and miss so in coming to advise like bringing rice to the biggest rice market in the world six bringing coals to Newcastle times ten but you know what that means is that one of the performers are being beaten to within an inch of their lives for the situation we are spoilt for choice when it comes to companies like the hustling to get people to go into your show that's so much a part of the performance it's a whole other performances exhausting and then supporting each other trying to see the shows is a manual cortex that does attract which involves lots of singing on the way in which they go out of business is they just come out in costume to sing short songs and public service was one thing that you would be well advised to do if you're gonna do a show in Edinburgh is something where you can just go out and do snippets of it in the street conspicuous so that might be %HESITATION would be conspicuous you know you're singing that carries in the sense of amazing costumes whether six weeks away that kind of thing do something about it on the street and that will get you distinguish McConnell but that means planning is going to be with them only to be thanks for your the business is this is what one must bear in mind if you were quite well see we decided to see the menu castle when they're on their way to London is coming out from underneath this is a very good thing about living in Newcastle it is sent to the other one in new castle because they're just trying stuff rounds on the way out and also for the same reason cheaper because they're going to run this for a fiver at this time did you cancel so yeah richer parents usually gets our undivided attention but when she's not getting any of it this time because this thing happened about a month I understand and you got some anyway assisting the feminists and northern states next month yes we are this is the first time you've told me about you know okay right because this would be a cool and yeah I decided to take you with my other ticket okay do I get the chance to decide whether I want to come with you maybe I'm trying to educate it would be the second time you're on I've been sick because feminists together we can happens to be here on Thursday we make it for one day and get it taken care of coming at the end of August this time for just a day so it didn't really work out anyway yeah we're going to be able to see them in half so it's quite rare that they come out for number so citing a demonstrator recording this and put into a criminal record Newcastle's possibly because opposing offensive these faculties they're gonna be fun it's never not been fun it's always very tiring 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R. to price membership options or drop a fiver into this charge thanks and enjoy the rest of the episode where site %HESITATION just please please I was really impressive to me finally it was so well written this is a fantastic thing several different variations on the world in the coming minute costumes on registering the six I'm not gonna tell you who we are and then it will become apparent the company reveals during a sketch about who we are and then everything was expected to become funny so that that was the times that they may need to do with it from just a few small repertoire I did foods of twelve thirteen schedule to get the server roughly three and the rules and really really well written mail had four or five big tanks in the longer ones and the short ones for just a single guy activated inside of a minute even in a concert hall and just please please will Tom Georgie and just these days is the name of the troops and also it seems at the moment the name of the show more contestable with having a show that Scott different titles in the name of your committee contact and I think the name Jesse space X. quite telling because it's quite a polite there is some swearing and some gnarly ness and there but it's a very sweet and very good natured show there's nothing maintenance to suppress it hi he takes that one is really good use of musical acts are and that was when you do it for you sure about this in a tiny room that held about sixty people you get an eighty person who does a very limited lighting setup and a bit of audio but the use because there's really retiring constantly switching to pain points to show that they were between scenes because that's the kind of rearranging the furniture just moving around in order to get from the end once into the beginning of the next with very little going offstage as well so that the lights were switched to say now don't run X. sketch with music in between each sketch was always a preparatory sketch this coming up in seventy nine yes I am able I was really good at doing this I was confident character for delivery they were getting into the account is snoozing really confidently for the area for the tiniest restricted area you'd be tempted to get quite distant from the phone at home is to keep the movement of a room we all have done from school training because they were doing dancing singing some points it wasn't tons of what their characters in the sketch we do hundreds of accents they must access I bet that took ten months to write what you want to go for a different time I think it took a significant amount of time and right here so I need to get it tight and then once you know what the space that is for her saying the transitions while also remaining of the chairs to position them for the next batch coming night stand to get props on and off it takes a lot of practice and knowing high care spaces and because I am a friend with one of the four people with well we are going to try it because going to hospital now we're gonna try to get his own suggestions about what's involved in doing this kind of service Hey we're really super excited to be joining might well come to here I am I saying that correctly the single way and hear from just these plays and we've had a reading in the free time watching on the session if we can just give me a few questions hi would you describe show is twenty five sketches in fifty five minutes from the very fast paced SO of silliness the grown ups that is also quite clever it'll be a very modest yeah I thought it was very clever it's not only to give compliments lightly yeah it's recorded for ever it's a I'd say it's like a classic sketch and we cannot sketch comedy and I love the with the advent of my stand up comedy and character comedy with lots of breaking the fourth wall and trying to the audience which is amazing but it is a group of princes of Maine who do it really well it's like this weird amalgamation standup and sketch but we were just like let's just do sketches just still sketches thirty four if you wouldn't mind because we only remember everybody's first name mine just Rhymin everybody's name yes Philippa Carson Georgie Janice Tom Dixon and myself within Siemens hearing this anytime and so in your own well yes trying to make your way in the world of showbiz thing with day jobs some nine days thirty isn't because yeah so hard to express and getting on the of the the A. B. player graduated from my ear drums because anyone of them who has not got a second job I think that's probably what everyone has of the stuff that I have to do because it's changed so much but that's the compromise you make when you doing something that you love and all the necessary financially stable but it's what you want to do on your own and it killed at the main branch which is probably one of the better known locations venues which might examine how you can convince a lot because it's your first range is a great day this offers them a fringe as a group repeat that just say if you're gonna put the question on is constrained and I we've gotten together billions of because we've been gigging in London just trying stuff out on the fringes always angry because we wanted to do stuff and we found doing things off our own back with anyway tonight on and get his agency in a career that saw that latency and is often not a meritocracy there are so many variables and got you can be the bank like amazing do great job in the state he's too small which is the night it's just about how it works what sentence it wasn't seven that's too small I need of intend to find out is the other thing yeah seventy but we were like we have this thing we work well together we like working together to make something today and if it is in London to indifferent directed you contact people we contacted all the big ones disseminated thousands gathered them under running a bunch of the smaller ones a couple of places offer those places and gilded balloon unpleasantness I came to see us %HESITATION the fall festival because we managed to get into the office today until one night together but after seeing reductions in that package it was on a hiking condition I can understand ten minutes of the show before his run of consecutive minutes I really kind of a still okay and is like awesome stuff but I go to the place off the back of that and so it was a nice balance of work on not getting someone in doing so that was good enough for the people Hey and you and also the kindness of the venue's going oh yeah we're going to take a chance of someone we've never heard of that's how we say so that anyone can do it but it takes a lot of again a lot of and let's be a testament to Hiero day earlier incarnations of the show if they thought well yeah we will give you time yeah I think so I think we'll invested in it because we feel that it was good which I think makes is unique in that address I think everyone has sex with the but yeah definitely I must've been and still is we find of his tights you know leave a lasting contest I really like that the Joe Klein it was very good shares a lot of it was very in a sense that's quite refreshing in a world where everybody's fighting I don't know why we made that choice I think it's the idea of someone going and if we don't going to see shows you feeling uncomfortable let the people in St John St Thomas after I think was definitely like why things are so common tree which we love but we just want to make it a lot alike this is the way we've done it so it's been a long thing to one group of people can see us out a bit sat by it might be Correa's advises one line which I completely disagree with which is over and the work of a crazed by and the only reason I know users from Newcastle because my car is about coming together and it doing exactly what I'm doing because of my it really keeps me up at night and that was one point in the show to do that I think yeah it's not offensive not offensive but also we would never know you know we just we like people have an ice times put in context even at twelve fifteen so in a roughly sixty seat venue it was in the basement we went up and down a lot of states the area and I think it's on just below the ground yeah every single seat in the everything was taken I would check my journal with several human listen to something seventy six yeah the past five or six days we decided to sell out yes that is ME ten seats empty today there's only about three which I think comes to choose a selloff I don't know that's the thing that's really been my gosh this is remarkable because we struggle to get reviews and stuff but without just word of mouth it's friends family and people saying Hey go and see this and then it's also strange is seventy stand is going to say I'm liking it the full coming of a missile was complete without social media would any fertility people you'll hear the same shows ever ever again things and and that's the only reason I can say that we that's amazing %HESITATION service while the kids think this is such a massive parts of friends I guess even the visual culture transistors because right right please bring her phone background and your last name the things you love goes to circle their sections you know maybe do the right thing and the most really very interesting the communication nearly complete circle for the title anyway so it's the same company the card yeah it's a really formation it's very clear and then on the back of the prior year and now you said that you wear during the show yeah which is the state and the computerized how did you go about defining turning for doing the photo shoot there are a couple of things we knew we had today %HESITATION wanted to do one which is helpful about faces on it because I glance that's what you want young people to recognize the poster on the faces not see what's on stage what we were going to say that's what you're selling we so we want to be ourselves we want to look like on comedy we don't want to be today we're approachable and quite lovely anyone in particular as ideas that you would overseas Kim I've been told he's that might be just because he's a full time solicitor but it was this is skeptical that the John and then an old sketch group two guys who went to John this is John financial planner thing says though not so light aircraft was invading neutral but still threw things away and I think I quite like that it was trying to be grown ups but not ready succeeding some rain AS laboratory choice that we're like okay %HESITATION let's see if it works really well she's an Philips %HESITATION decided to buy some white suits on Amazon I just tried it and then we try them on the ground and let them we've today the post and then you can see what we have to and striking there's an it pleasing formation no we so I think it works yeah it is to the rule of three as well I think he's on the line on the faces and the bottom tanks they logo the idea was like a tea stains come down that is the latest version of our friendly development is a friend of ours who design stuff and we gave him a break we took thousands of pictures we've got a friend take pictures Lawrence and download the different formations but this one just relied on the contract it was a real confetti gun more it's Georgie well no she no I know it so for those from Ireland Georgie has second is Jones but she's a glass behind homes could have been because you're almost a four nation yeah Republic of rather than in the U. K. do you do you must have more from it helps because then it would just an Englishman Irishman and a Scotsman it was a little shocking it seems for a couple of the other members of your home when there was some intakes of breath at this point and that point Tom's playing this movie is the kindest meeting that you buy in the shops and the point was when he put the gun in the mouth and nose with officers maybe it's to show just how willingly we suspend disbelief I think it goes I wasn't holding guns even though I know it's made of plastic and because we have different things and this is the shocking images thing the I do you especially with the joke is that she's appearing she goes on a dog because it used to be spoilers everybody the premises and the PA being sent on the behalf of the boss for catch up yeah so the PA has to do everything the bus as a natural extension of that is the boss gets his he does have to go through it just like a very silly just not to the extension of the job but this is you bring suicide so I think what's changed involvements is Jodie's gonna fire but now has been playing with the likes flexible said one six it gives you when it's time to go okay this will be the darkest sounds doctor and disposing of it let me tell you the full scope is waiting for the big this is where another time sketches sculpture and I want to yeah well I mean they were like all the sketches %HESITATION all four of us have input and change and stuff it's just a natural spot every single catching this has been added these are the schedule to and then if it's not to be here yeah the bark for life sketch this is a conversation with you about how life feels neglected they are very it's just a great we accept being fell apart from we've played in different pots so we try and keep the casting by general so judging I've done it Tom and Jody again at the all the policies of the exchange well known in Edinburgh we've kept it the same just a piece of serving as a good representation of a road safety five hours who was on stage at any one time yeah we try our best to do that if it will worry to some people than on this motion I felt my god given rights will punch lines we spend so much time talking about making sure that it's like because I think this is the greatest thing sometimes again this is not always about persons show to join in and I think we've done I think it's a haunted and one who'd brought what which we used to do some I don't yes what we have been doing this initially when we talk when I had written the both of which I want to do that and they're like yeah great just bust the bank tells us that as a boy it's written from a male perspective and written for ourselves and so working with them well god that's not something that we do being you know open and liberal wealthy people and feminists were like how did that yeah it's really it's just so funny how great is that he says that's missing and stuff like that so but it was like I want to write more sketches just women and I was gonna kill like talking to her and we were like that sounds great J. just extended from NASA's further provided receptacles with it's one of those places where people primes entertainment for this contest was with these problems and then the basic even though I am a person who was wearing a seat something else so you have to blackrock questioning you date the bank the best person I'm assuming as soon I'm gonna buy the head home you have to imagine that I wanted your team to be aware that you can generate yeah I'm gonna change my customers in the from now one must be different yeah I am not like when you were done with the the builder and the because posted on yes the business to be complete I think big adds a bit of noise and also I think if you're not doing it really really well I think what you lose in the transition time because I get to the same quickly jumped from the scratch if we have like a minimum cost on something in to fill out this is why we studying onstage this time was like I ran a scan is all about and if we feel that we have to get a bug Hey welcome to the boat and going as you can guess from from some completely willing to go with okay this is one of the and so that's what I specifically did a lot of information there is that still rules of improv this the time that they use which is ironic detachment they're trying to avoid ironic that option and I think we try very hard to play the sincerity of the conversations we have a life in exile as if it was a real relationship the audience laughing I mean we try to maintain the tension the whole basis of my tongue in cheek Matt this is funny we may not always pulls me out the two men are like well this call may be a factor well I guess there's a pipeline okay there's nothing you can push through there's a question mark this is Nancy disbelief people are willing to just there's a few members Russell what these people are doing in front of us is absurd I'm never find myself going I'm in a room watching some of the things that are doing it every month every day from get okay that was my job today I'm going to go and pretend to be with me and then I. F. and I'm like it's very strange so the frivolous and strange things that it'll make sense within the drummer if each yeah there's a serious man this movie is about to give in to me exactly how to be yeah yeah when when is a collection of the most whimsical see the products you get if you survive to show he can how many thousands of Americans is the I think we had enough to give us a seven session in a recent I put my bags in my pocket monocled Wilson alters things on the phones as well we do have a there was a very neat callbacks within the sketches but you kept them relatively discreet my mom's biggest what I think is the minute he was meeting with we never thought I've got a lot that's one of those really strange things that audiences I need to grab the audience's appointed you they just recognize the audiences on stupid and very small and very brave please keep coming to see us it's all becomes like an in joke for that room of people because it's like if we were that and is this something I think %HESITATION sketches about things that people recognize that because Meghan Markle and Kate Middleton sketch people like with the double right I really appreciated that a lot of the sketch is very conscious of being gender neutral and stumble home and interacting with the server bodies this is nice to have those sorts of things just not be an issue you know the the next meeting %HESITATION yeah yeah it's something that I'm in I think we're all very conscious of his listening to each other in the group in a specific time and I who initiate written most of it the knights like I said it's very much a modernist all four of those yeah this escape is that we don't have anymore they used on the web page in it there's a malpractice and all this bitch and it was a high and %HESITATION very setting and I've written a line of sight and then the Filippos sent chills I I'd done things good words for us to be saying I was like I genuinely don't see the problem but let's go not because I don't understand how bout with you since then we came up with a funny word current board it was but we ended up saying something so inane and childish that actually was funny because it took away the status of the it's just about listening when Thomas that's not right the man and I was trying right from the email because sketches tend to be mutual definitely why not just right as a woman because my natural just right so I could just change that and just imagine George into the big old big old liberal con the box a little but it is just because of the women in my life been aware of that and I think that's important sometimes with comedy it's an excessively it's a novelty you know we're doing sketches you can so that I it's easier to make an actor in a limited relationship because but it is funny to do different things remember if you ask the question but I'm almost yeah one of my team needs me being very embarrassed about sex is very cute it seems like the jobs going to have the from the storm the mayor may not it was just nice it was a rather than I was in the in that case yeah that kind of thing and it's just funny more because this is known as thank you to that's something we just find it funny is people have describes like all for nine days yes an interesting that they chose to male names that do you know what for you guys after the friends apart from months of France but myself unit into the girl professional actors and %HESITATION is this this is also a professional the idea is that this will again it's been a mentor Hey Scott how to plan because it's so based on that will definitely happen as I got home for a little bit and then right and he didn't they were very resilient what do you do yeah depends on the time I don't think I can take this much holiday offer free we will have to work on that but we will it's the thing that we do and we love to do more stuff with it the idea is to just these days to come up big thing that we can make stuff in the bag and then we can make stuff on the top yeah many great bands the first phase fighters the names of the title going to be expected to remember one thing yeah exactly a month to month to come in to read just please come from is and tightened that is a quick question charming until midnight but and may and then radiation and it was that thing just these please when you put something down a shop just these days because you want to be Brian yeah you know what to say these are just these days it's qualifying is on what could be happening the other this is a way of saying please when you sell meetings I want the same time same place recently nothing else I don't want anymore things that those are like the same justice based just the sketches I still doesn't know what it means anymore because that's where it came from but it's just a name that people keep forgetting do you continue to hold the J. T. something we do and we got a lot of the type and I insist on the common between just these in place at the end of our last visit makes is that okay stacking services we've had a really great time so even if this happens yeah well just a space where can we find you on the internet good just please please someone else stole just these days H. J. U. S. T. H. E. S. E. says just the space but with that one U. S. first team and yet just tease please is what has and then we're on just these days dot com if you search just these these into Google you'll find us and we just released a sketch that has like two and a half million views a new schools which is cool when you order coffee with an Irish name and by financial G. well judging for that that is George's main idea is that this is a difficult yeah George zero and for the rest of us for as well and then we found out together for an incident on a friend I'm trying to get the filming and editing I was online this is just please please thank you would you like to receive updates thanks and special offers straight to your inbox then they said forty visual cultures dot wordpress dot com to sign up to your mailing list yes again thanking you for having been told to go into the thing that I'm going to do it well I wanted to say that one as well before they had a pretty nice and countered with a jaunty chop from my neck of the woods firing poker area something from another area I was the only person to bump into poker you would have been I would have to follow new video converter I should have done was just go way back I have to confess my girlfriend and I would have had it won here calling me a you can keep he's as hairy as possible right the tier three funny men from Northern Ireland here we saw him a couple of years ago may have neglected them for awhile please send me send you counseling and family I think when you see someone firing for sure that they're doing this French and we're definitely not going to see venture for you consider that at some point you become the most forening pessimist possible to be solved and expect nothing but Justin Wallace it was the phone twice entered yes there's a group of I think knowing people pull together KOSPI project the findings will cut off and credits at the end of may %HESITATION name servers a good seven people who doing performance and then there was a guy he was completing the intertitles our favorite topic and writing a sentence and this happened sometimes I could even hear the type I yes it was coach an improvised side in the face of course we have to go through this I couldn't have a have been anybody but Italians because they continue to have probably the most respect for the silent era film if they put even RDMA anybody cinema notes to shame the Italians have reference for it please reference of course because early cinema is dominated by committee I'm a college that and so even though it was supposed to be a drama they were improvising they stopped in those moments of comedy dark comedy having a pair of dark comedy mixed with Anderson Scotty yes it was pretty effective for the wonderful performances particularly there's a couple of people playing what one does find a dog another's pain you can't never particularly for me yeah the visit of gender mixing because there was a woman playing a man very effectively and probably in a calm way both were kind of surprised to getting across the types of characters ever find something we find ourselves observing all the time when you play the six that you're not a customer make up on your side you have to stop and of course the guy playing the woman was coated very much in flux %HESITATION I would say so honoring a faction S. of the performance of the flapper girl and a man in the iron to quite smoking and having a baby gnarly to okay you're on Thomas conventions of the era including lots of poking fun at forms of Damascus and can save twenty five as well a new truck source was used to describe the foreman foreman is coming in and these two guys standing in front of the auditorium completely silent Ali constant acting sit down sign and the bass from the centers and we set the front row and then after I sat down to go notes in the file manager from the room and then they go to any concerts and the principal was someone in the audience had to write down on a slate one of them is holding the touch of a job they did it several times I got the right one so if you wanted to write about whatever was on the site the new one on and then we did a kind of reckoning up between %HESITATION was undertaken and it was the have to find somebody suggested secrets act somebody suggested that with the yeah server there were several that came down to the most lots of hello your clothing so the firm we chose the telephone was the on the take and then they started to improvise this firm I'm aware of that was done where is the screen it was I'd say about three fifteen for a similar scenes behind the pharmacy area such that when it wants on informants area you could barely see the screen written off you could project something on demonstrating what sort of beginning and then the project hello from the lights behind the screen to go on to those lots of surprising Q. seven and then within a performance based performers are coming from either side with a limited number from and I hope and wish to start think they've got a repertoire and they're picking them from that record but then after awhile I started thinking if they're adapting it really really well the principal of one of the characters please stay on undetected because that was a job for Mr they did do comedy along the lines of this character has to pick up this other character and this performance is strong enough to listen to their problems there was a bit more of the onyx detachment that will was saying they didn't do him justice please yeah I'm running for president when one is doing a show about something similar is basically it's because people love off silent films so much even when they're not too even in the dead straight loss because they're so strict please come general happen after the initial while this seems like it's going nowhere was it into pointed type story even if the results of the initially which is the undertakers and started but there's lots of different ways to die service levels darkly comic and people find themselves in buildings and some people falling asleep at the wheel of a car crashing or accidentally knocking somebody off everything just to get you in may for the sorry and then immediately when those are happening deciding right this is the kind of story that we're going to try to do too mature to notice because I was very convincing yeah they call it he said story lines may be there for course to resign and take it up to whatever profession is chosen the three nine right relationship with the person doing the job it shows and then they have the relationship with this person and it breaks down for whatever reason whatever jobs on to the next court hearing that would make sense of one of the scenes in the greater of the things that were specific to take it would have been rougher on the edges of the design process with engine over the course of the trip it seems to have physical not to be they have a specific time today have something called the forty three year I think it was the same person he was playing the woman in the relationship how may I think the name of the character this person it's very we can even get using them thanks for coming to life story told people about paying crews and things like that shorter people are paying out of all of the kind that we often think of it in the film acting is being circulated to contacting you don't it's from Spain it's just a very elementary money combined with other forms of some of the phones that come to mind for us to get us he gets on the phone for anyone landing now doing physical comedy learn some of the ways of using forty used from someone to go I want you to share without blinking but you'll flushing I looks as to how to do that we take hands from the new school year four fingers and promote fire it's great put a new wave your finger check on a man who thinks that yes and I love the way they come and get some youthful liberals believe it turns out and she's showing off the engagement ring on this thing I this is not the shivering after hours but then using the other hand to flash dot something diamonds the timing of course is everything one eccentric define the penis is doing a cracking job because there's both playing music that she's turned and playing notes the sound effects and music and trying to get this is sound effect from this rejection of the long lines if if you just hammering the same note again M. as in court again and again and it's quite a place known as well that tends to come across as %HESITATION that somebody slamming into this is just really insistent music this work to do that unless it is doing very well there was a lot of undertaker characters must be very strong so if he's too strong sometimes and break things tells of door handles over something sign ready have a certain amount of lifting the heavy lifting their assigned if I was doing the metaphorical heavy lifting about that yes which I thought was quite figure just because it was pretend he's lifting their metaphorical heavy lifting about the metaphorical heavy lifting that refers to some user habits that's a matter for instance was clear that they have not just seen a lot of some films but seen some specific phones the idea of a character he just doesn't appreciate how strongly fourteen September is a specific mmhm and it's nice and then cut off the courses taught today yeah for the company from about nineteen or character somehow when was it takes possession or something and I don't think it would be much Linda Phil Mickelson cure for Cavendish and for extra translates as a medicine for strength and he takes his medicine for pain Caledon becomes unnaturally both brave and strong so there's a lot of comedy and people not knowing to expect how strongly also the two rivals for women's affection that's in about every other song from service contemptuous effective at getting back to Poland lots of fun I'm trying to represent a front runner I think so let them into something that I thought was that we could see quite a lot of what was going on on the side to probably figure further back that would have been a bit more of a surprise to us yeah it was very funny but at certain points people who are in the wings not being part of that particular skit no particular scene the heat off of what people were doing the same the fed I think one the woman who is playing the big heavy garden when she was carried off stage which was put down for some reason she found it distracting embarrassed when it's just been done and her face I could just about see if you're desperate times the result from often having done that but this is another instance of a reserve this morning it's the we're gonna put in front of you is not supposed to look like what it represents we are calling upon you to do it again when expressed in disbelief someone from the main on the ticket counter Kevin throws his rifle throws it out the door D. mind throwing one another for McCain on ramps heavy there's a huge fight stuck on the shoulder and lifted her off into the wings for mine the morning interacting with things %HESITATION yeah I mean you can mine being the subject of the actions of things around those willing to put those two together you can have somebody being for someone and again something which works within the scenario is that there's no need to call back somebody pretending to defend every meeting that simply pretending very well to give an impression of I don't know if it was the inventiveness often exploits what was funny at all costs of three coverage even think of selling arms to emulate option but it's not really works because that's very community communicating monitoring and of course they're crossing several language sorry for Sharon's high end that means that they can travel I can do this it doesn't matter but the language they just need somebody within the intertidal second okay and whatever language country houses its dominant language but also it's not language of silence sentiment that so alien and quite car ninety two people might because Sandra hears ago if this was going on did you notice that when the thing looks up at a local footage at the beginning it was the lack of for just fifteen of us universal was formed in nineteen fifteen those are the kind of counter did the music means to determine in nineteen thirty one the universal film company was formed out of a conglomeration of twelve existing from companies it was called universal because the other was already around at that point the film is universal for them to choose from I do no Sir the language because language or style specific characteristics and film doesn't fit this kind of sticks but the universal unknown numbers decrease specific communication means and they were having a damn good government that was like an Italian mostly comedic melodramatic music drama which had been given creative English interface which was a normal time according to some scholars friends of mine are Italian work on Italian cinema I'm trying to take it or so I and I taught in comedy a time companies are really quite dark chopsticks and we're all living above us he showed us some of these Italian comedies that he was looking at the rest of the server British Irish Americans my neighbor family quite distressing thoughts are essential to being about death and the undertaker and not from the edge and the quite dark and tragic despite the settings I do wonder whether there was a bit of manipulation isn't loading this decision making any units we came up with about six different titles yeah it was we would close those down through a process of elimination to to get invited on it was that the guy stopped the process when he had undertaken another one in north he said it was if we had a couple of people which we probably would have been on their minds RT some mystery and what which is about thirty pounds %HESITATION you're free and up is that what you wanted to your investment bank all right I thought you were going to do I don't know I was different RT from historians yeah it's like putting a mirror in front of the mirror just make it really matter after like in the future the address for the starting to be very important for everyone we care very much appreciate Christopher Lambert as it is your right and I think we're seeing is %HESITATION just waiting to see ninety nine yeah so the tech in the bay area so we're not on night of ninety giving him any key to see if we can get and see the skeptics and we're hoping to see the C. K. alley came up off and take any marriage started may and run over so we just didn't make it so that one is over here this was our contingency plan when we can get into this when I get into this so let's see the plane was intense it was probably a bit more intense actual contract everyone sat in the near future brexit has messed everything up toward the north and ardens parts from the apparently there's not very much the same old legacy so if absent fathers stuff that's been done a million times before only this time it's Spain comes over to some women they still are concerned so many ways their father never wanted instead of getting on with their lives on the main character's anti a religious or Catholic the lord's prayer keeps saying number pages Hey she and her other siblings her sister and two brothers their father dies apparently during the contacts they were taken and has children by the reality is Russian Fabian it's apparently situated in west Belfast you seem to be Scottish and had a crack at the accents hello one character was Jerry and all the rest of the characters are specific they all signed in for Terry then that every character dates about their very different accents so we will I think my main criticisms are actually they didn't really seem to know much about anything that under certain actors role for him they worked really hard did a good job with I thought that there may be material was very under researched serves very talky there was a lot of stuff provides the disappears can't get mentioned in a very fake way but when details were given there are entire day problems so things like dozens and dozens one seventeen fictional characters at first J. as being world distance not in the upper prominent loyalists that kind of thing never happens it is usually people who are in the house like for national communities usually accused of some kind of forming for being traitors and most of the time it was probably mistaken identity or it was just a sign today the community this is what we will do to you if you do you inform the types even more tense for tap on the actual contract was in many ways one thing was there's a character called a author and it's actually a leader and then union carnation of loyalist paramilitaries McCall there at times what was the right essay our age you read something wasn't terribly and my sister but anyway this character to fight it with quite a lot of compassion which anyway was different from the typical depiction of the loneliness because usually there are stand alone as she was but they're usually so I called back and really enjoyed torturing people they would have just done away with people the way that she does so I don't know if the writer not knowing how it all works for the city because of some of the S. and room to run and take a man's stories of Sophocles and then it's all these religious infractions I wonder if I'll if this may be trying to take on more than they could come to the right team speaking nothing they're just young and starting right I don't know who this person is it's a good attempt and everybody worked really hard C. company hopes anybody for me and all I know is we but as lesbianism thrown in there for good measure of representation is scared but not if it's a shame on them for the crack yeah the traffic citations and that being said one thing I recommend to play for I did make a point of there being a multiplicity of Ireland's somewhat higher than it is everybody is a very individual thing and what it meant to the previous generation the next generation is very different from one of the younger people many of the same they were crumbling under the pressure of trying to keep that up and I just the excess study hard if not how to been explored a bit more and make more effectively probably would've warms more it was I think it just got buried under needless pointless violence all honors very simplistic canceling that didn't really make anything anywhere maybe that was the point but it's just not really reflective of the current time and it's you know in twenty nineteen to twenty this is when there's no sitting assembly the house in order to be referring to women's and eating with the price of well we wish we could get back to that actually it was written after the brexit referendum I just called about his reference often the reference but before the assembly start when their time was for a small window of time time and it was quite a long time ago sales nine along top and had a lot of key thinkers have died have retired so it's very difficult to write something like that to make it relevant because the crying dissecting underneath it so quickly it's a very difficult I read research I just really have been trying lately because everyday something no not somebody else's fire and so hard to keep up with everything to try and do something creative and not something I right reuniting Ireland Austin not really understanding what it is we probably ought to be changed location haptics he was quite large and it seemed like it was going to start quite nano my worried by making a chance without we just tell I haven't changed how to decompress because if you try to do too much and I guess really overwhelming and I think three big things and I was actually quite a good day trying to give some credit to dance again even pretty fearless when serving humans getting into conflicts where that brutalize making it something that's not to say in the real world may have been a mistake maybe it should have been able to set an alternative world read the names of the fractions roommate the countries are made up of my thinking okay I think we're on the same page being a religious who is going to lead to conflict suddenly suffering lying on the being willing to commit violence whole have them turned up to eleven the main character was not a fan practicing I don't really know maybe that is generally known by people the research extensively on willing to be six we ran it does seem there but I think their points we can pick up on other times to explore more taps thanks very much for listening there are links to many of the acts and shows mentions in the expanded show notes which are available to patrons fi a Petri on dot com forward slash P. 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